tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post6994911872959950847..comments2024-01-02T14:23:55.431-05:00Comments on Two Azorean Chicks: A mulher do CapoteTwoAzoreanChickshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01888472032640694337noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-69000700949501998472022-09-23T18:42:40.678-04:002022-09-23T18:42:40.678-04:00There were Muslims in the Azores, they were pushed...There were Muslims in the Azores, they were pushed out of Spain and then out of Portugal to the islands... also the Jewish who didn't convert were asked to leave. Many went onto the Americas from here. I also have genetic markers in my testing that shows north African and middle easternAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-74139286610198772412021-10-19T17:36:37.627-04:002021-10-19T17:36:37.627-04:00Can I send you an image?Can I send you an image?Dan Vanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05845556961388399863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-66495010336135488642021-07-14T21:11:56.706-04:002021-07-14T21:11:56.706-04:00I would like to correct about no Arabs in the Azor...I would like to correct about no Arabs in the Azores. my grandfather is from Sao Jorge and grandmother from Faial. I did a recent dna from 23 and me. It shows Iam Arabic, Egyptian, Levantine. I was also able to check my cousins on both sides of the family and it shows about the same. The dna test suggest there was a Arab migration to the Azores in the 17th-18th century. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10839078465318625617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-69257716577283482812020-12-30T22:17:16.808-05:002020-12-30T22:17:16.808-05:00I think people often overlook the most obvious pos...I think people often overlook the most obvious possibility - that they were simply wearing a cloak as a protective outer garment. A reinforced hood like that would allow a woman to go about her day uninterrupted by a hood slipping back & it would effectively act as a hands free parasol. You can experience a wide variety of weather conditions in a day in the Azores so I imagine having a singular piece of outerwear that could handle any of it would be extremely helpful. It should also be noted that at a certain point in time if you were educated, upper middle class or just wealthy it was considered unattractive to have tanned skin. The working class people were tanned from working outdoors & they didn’t want to be mistaken for them. I don’t know for certain if that was a thing when these were in fashion but I know my grandmother (to this day) covers up when she works in the garden & she’s now well into her 80s.Jet Squirrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02313562981806866451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-27088582369268451452020-12-30T22:17:05.278-05:002020-12-30T22:17:05.278-05:00I think people often overlook the most obvious pos...I think people often overlook the most obvious possibility - that they were simply wearing a cloak as a protective outer garment. A reinforced hood like that would allow a woman to go about her day uninterrupted by a hood slipping back & it would effectively act as a hands free parasol. You can experience a wide variety of weather conditions in a day in the Azores so I imagine having a singular piece of outerwear that could handle any of it would be extremely helpful. It should also be noted that at a certain point in time if you were educated, upper middle class or just wealthy it was considered unattractive to have tanned skin. The working class people were tanned from working outdoors & they didn’t want to be mistaken for them. I don’t know for certain if that was a thing when these were in fashion but I know my grandmother (to this day) covers up when she works in the garden & she’s now well into her 80s.Jet Squirrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02313562981806866451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-61304114832441747812020-12-30T22:13:49.578-05:002020-12-30T22:13:49.578-05:00I think people often overlook the most obvious pos...I think people often overlook the most obvious possibility - that they were simply wearing a cloak as a protective outer garment. A reinforced hood like that would allow a woman to go about her day uninterrupted by a hood slipping back & it would effectively act as a hands free parasol. You can experience a wide variety of weather conditions in a day in the Azores so I imagine having a singular piece of outerwear that could handle any of it would be extremely helpful. It should also be noted that at a certain point in time if you were educated, upper middle class or just wealthy it was considered unattractive to have tanned skin. The working class people were tanned from working outdoors & they didn’t want to be mistaken for them. I don’t know for certain if that was a thing when these were in fashion but I know my grandmother (to this day) covers up when she works in the garden & she’s now well into her 80s.Jet Squirrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02313562981806866451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-33512465687981414132018-12-06T15:56:48.909-05:002018-12-06T15:56:48.909-05:00Here is a Pinterest link to the Flemish version c...Here is a Pinterest link to the Flemish version called a heuke. Azorean women obviously had their own take!<br />https://www.pinterest.com/misskrin/hoik-huik-heuk-heuke/?lp=trueTheresa Rezenteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107109011605651296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-20699221551024457512018-12-06T15:40:04.976-05:002018-12-06T15:40:04.976-05:00Go to p. 97 of this link to see the Flemish versio...Go to p. 97 of this link to see the Flemish version in a drawing. Apparently this cloak was a fashion craze in which the Azorean women copied with their own style.<br />https://books.google.com/books?id=UdP_sSKIxf0C&pg=PA94&lpg=PA94&dq=kerry+cloak+popularity&source=bl&ots=QT4sg1-VM9&sig=utG2nXPQYl8pdE3z03pbYKVbzJ4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjhkaqZh4zfAhUeHzQIHZsJBqoQ6AEwCXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=kerry%20cloak%20popularity&f=falseTheresa Rezenteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107109011605651296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-81934633129413301952018-03-01T09:31:39.065-05:002018-03-01T09:31:39.065-05:00Sta Maria was already being settled (1427) while t...Sta Maria was already being settled (1427) while the Moors were still in Granada (until 1492), so there was overlap. But.... a truly Islamic veil came into Andalucia and persisted there in places like Ronda until the 1930s,1950s. General Franco came from this area. The capote is not in any sense Islamic in style. I think the development is more like insular evolution, in birds for example. Creatures stranded on islands often evolve to dwarf versions (pygmy hippos, homo floriensis) or giants (moas, dodo birds). It is female style competition run amok -- who can wear the biggest most billowy capote? Like peacock feathers, it is a kind of showing off.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05133939909921902260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-13782261568851798012018-02-25T01:19:20.867-05:002018-02-25T01:19:20.867-05:00The Moors were in the peninsula for ~800 years. An...The Moors were in the peninsula for ~800 years. And with Sta Maria and São Miguel being closer in proximity and oldest to be populated esp those who populated them. A Muslim-esque headscarf isn’t out of the question (many religions wear them esp she consider how religious Azoreans were/are.) kristineresendeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11070598924571148988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-88966949036393340412017-11-25T05:53:45.984-05:002017-11-25T05:53:45.984-05:00There were indeed Flemish settlers in the Azores a...There were indeed Flemish settlers in the Azores and there are some XVIth century Flemish folk outfits that do resembles to these Azorean hoods BUT there were never arabs in the Azores nor in Portugal to be fair. Portugal was invaded by northern african berbers, not by arabs. The only arabs in the peninsula were the invading army generals in the beginning and after that the governors of the first caliphate were indeed arabs, they came from the Levant (today Syria), nevertheless some arabic culture reached today Portugal, at least in the south, in the form of language and religion. Portugal was peripheral within the Al-Andaluz that is why we do not have Moorish monuments, archeology, culture, roads, bridges, language, religion etc. nothing reminds us that in the Algarve muslim hold the place for 500 years. We do have some 600 words in Portuguese (the language has 600000 words) half of which are toponymy in southern Portugal, so 300 words. But most of those words are used internationally too, for example the English language has 120 arabic words and arabs never went there…<br />So to be fair, the hooded Azoreans may really have some Flemish ancestry or a local thing that emerged in the Azores. The "Arab" claim has absolutely no logic or have no reason to be possible.<br />Rosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01170607385449298343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-37505248481870950112016-10-19T17:11:22.185-04:002016-10-19T17:11:22.185-04:00I want to make one of these.I want to make one of these.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18330330218998691507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-79572568377399549302016-03-21T11:14:36.574-04:002016-03-21T11:14:36.574-04:00I asked my inlaws about this. They come from the ...I asked my inlaws about this. They come from the island of Terceira. They said that women would wear these capes to go about the island in disguise. Especially useful when conducting unsavory business I guess.creed213https://www.blogger.com/profile/14805913613292874553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-46604203004451463312013-09-01T17:22:56.088-04:002013-09-01T17:22:56.088-04:00Wow - am really enjoying your blog - we just got b...Wow - am really enjoying your blog - we just got back from Sao Miguel and hope to return next year - the scenery is spectacular but the WARM Azorean people won over our hearts forever! Interesting about the "capote"Cristina Diazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01488963981625096473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-9157090210751243022013-08-19T22:50:14.441-04:002013-08-19T22:50:14.441-04:00Heya! I'm big into Azorean/Portuguese traditio...Heya! I'm big into Azorean/Portuguese tradition. I remember growing up with these too! My parents are from Sta Maria. I also tried looking up the claim of the garb being from "Flanders," but came up empty. My family always told us about the strong influence of the arabs (especially in Sta Maria since it's the oldest) and I always thought it was from that. I only read about Flanders from that one blurb on the web. What do you think? I wonder how we can figure it out!kristineresendeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11070598924571148988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4840001236593851359.post-69046410589503819392013-05-24T17:52:31.949-04:002013-05-24T17:52:31.949-04:00great read!
great read! <br />The Real Housewife of Union Countyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02631916457580910718noreply@blogger.com